Saturday, September 25, 2010

Qigong: Good, Bad, or Ugly? Can a Christian do Qigong?

To start off, I don’t have a particular issue with martial arts. In fact, it's long been an interest of mine. Not that this makes it a good thing either. Anyways, I practiced Taekwondo for several months in 2010 (1- this is solely taught as a physical exercise, and 2 - I am taking a break. 3 - If I find it to be contrary to scripture, I will quit). I made it to green belt, but decided to take a break. At the moment, I don't know if I'll go back.

I've also learned Tai Chi, though I do not practice it at present. I sort of learned it before I started to question it, and until I know for sure what it is, and what dangers it holds, I cannot in good conscience practice it either.

Taekwondo is certainly more of a physical exercise. I've been told by a Christian brother that it's safe, but this same brother said Tai Chi was not. So, we'll come to these a different day. I had to establish that I have some very limited background in martial arts.

I also do not have any issue with China, or Chinese culture, as my wife is from China, and I have been to China several times. My issue today is with Qigong, and the fact that churches are allowing it to be taught in their halls. Qigong is in effect a doorway into the occult which is what makes this alarming. This is by no means a comprehensive study, but rather is meant to demonstrate the spiritual dangers involved in practicing Qigong.

There is a lot of New Age infiltration of the church with contemplative prayer, and probably a whole host of other things. I’ve noticed that some churches, rather than offering classes on how to better follow Christ, feed the poor, expose sin, or disciple Christians, are offering classes about things unusual for church, and it makes me wonder why. One nearby church, a Presbyterian church, offered classes on Tai Chi. What I wonder is: how is this class going to help the Church fulfill its Christ given mission?

Another Presbyterian Church, the one I used to attend, was offering classes on how to practice Qigong (Chi Kung). One day, I just suddenly felt drawn to check out their website, and see what was new. Then I saw they were offering classes on Qigong. This immediately set off alarm bells because I had heard stories about Qigong, but didn’t know enough about it. My first impression was that it was similar in some way to Yoga, which is yet another way into the occult and should not be practiced by Christians.

I also knew a woman who practiced Qigong, and her claim was that when she did it, she felt large and at one with the universe, and on a few occasions an entity asked her several times to follow him. Perhaps he was trying to get her to allow him to possess her body. This woman has also claimed to have been able to perform remote viewing on occasion. Remote viewing for those who don't know is basically going into an altered state, and is another occult and New Age practice. I think this woman’s experiences are a big part of what set off the warning bells for me.

So what is Qigong? Why should one worry about it? Is Qigong incompatible with Christianity?

My initial, non-researched answer is that Qigong promotes itself as an art form/meditation that can in some cases bring one into contact with the spirit realm. It's main design seems to be to develop discipline as well as teach the practitioner how to control Chi for various uses. This is certainly not the way to get closer to God, as prayer, faith in Christ, and Bible study are the only ways to do that.

Now, let’s dig a bit, and pick apart some facts about Qigong.

Wikipedia suggests that Qigong is a form of mental, physical, and breathing exercises that allow one to manipulate chi, or “life energy.” Think the Force in Star Wars which is essentially an impersonal, "divine" energy field. The qigong belief seems to be that chi is found in everything and can be controlled, lost and gained through various means. Wiki also suggests that Qigong has strong elements of meditation no matter which variety of Qigong one practices. Here is the link to what Wikipedia says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong

The National Qigong Association, http://nqa.org/what-is-qigong/ says that qigong “incorporates physical postures, breathing techniques and focused intention.”

In these regards Qigong is much like witchcraft, magick, or magik. Paganspath.com has this to say about magik: “Magik is a method of the direction and use of ‘psychic energy,’ those natural but invisible forces which surround all living things…”

I have read in many other sources (Fate, spell books, research on Aleister Crowley) that those who practice witchcraft, also seem to use physical postures (gestures) and focused intentions along with incantations and the like to practice their manipulation of this “force.” Wands were also used in some cases to help focus the spell caster's intent.

What I've come across with Aleister Crowley in Fate, some of his writings, and other podcasts I've heard about him, he maintained that willpower, or focused intentions, were the key to producing effective magick. He also did alot of things that were contrary to the Bible on purpose which were effective in acquiring spiritual contact. I would also argue that his rituals relied a lot on physical positions, depending on the working that he was trying to do. Given that a number of his rituals involved sex (and abhorrent sexual behaviour), I think that no one would disagree that certain postures and physical acts can have undesriale spiritual effects. Still, a major point with Crowley and those who practice magic and New Age things, is that willpower is one of the major keys to doing magick.

Crowley and witchcraft in general posit that focused intentions let them work magick, and Qigong too requires a focused will. So here are two widely different, yet entirely similar beliefs about an invisible “force” that surrounds everything and can be manipulated by people through various means, but primarily through one's willpower, and movements. One is viewed as harmless, and the other is clearly part of the dark arts. Of course these two beliefs differ on how one manipulates this energy, but the overall concept is entirely similar. On a very basic level, they are the same, and that is human willpower and work can influence the spiritual. This is of course contrary to the Christian perspective that supernatural forces and requests by people are subject to God's will. This is one reason why it's incompatible with Christianity. They both are the same lie that Satan always uses "ye shall be as gods".

My theory, really probably not even my own theory about this “force” is culled from some of the things that I've heard in alot of testimonies from former New Agers and what Russ Dizdar speaks about in his Podcasts. He maintains that there is something like an atmosphere around the earth and he says that is the second heaven. This second heaven is where the principalities and powers (Ephesians 6:12) operate, and as such accessing the second heaven puts us humans into contact with very powerful beings. Beings that the Bible states very clearly we are supposed to avoid. Keep the following scripture in mind as you continue. Recall that Qigong is the same as witchcraft on a basic level. There are more similarities coming.

Deuteronomy 18:10 -12 http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Deu&c=18&t=NLT#10:

For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling or sorcery, or allow them to interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft,

or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead.

Anyone who does these things is an object of horror and disgust to the LORD. It is because the other nations have done these things that the LORD your God will drive them out ahead of you.

One more warning about witchcraft

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ch&c=33&t=NLT#6

2 Chronicles 33:6

Manasseh even sacrificed his own sons in the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom. He practiced sorcery, divination, and witchcraft, and he consulted with mediums and psychics. He did much that was evil in the LORD's sight, arousing his anger.

At any rate, the second heaven is where the “Akashic Records” allegedly are. It is here that New Agers gain their "wisdom" and the fallen angel Satan and his ilk are able to allow them to access certain information. Here Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus and others obtain informtaion about the future and other things. Information that is at best 60% correct as opposed the 100% correct that God offers.

No matter where a person is in this world, when one gets in touch with this second heaven, the Akashic Records. This "force". When one meditates, somehow it opens up a door into the spirit world. During these meditations (Qigong) they often encounter a lot of similar elements, which can be found in a variety of places (like Russ Dizdar’s Podcasts, or Set the Captives Free Podcast).

These elements are:

* Hearing voices
* Limited psychic and/or precognitive abilities
* Seeing shadows, dead relatives, other forms of spiritual beings
* Loss of physical control
* Emotional outbursts
* Suicidal tendencies (once the entities are finished with the victim)

I myself probably used to practice a form of qigong. I used to try to gather Qi energy, like in Dragon Ball Z, so that I could become stronger, or gain some sort of power. I also used to focus my intent to dream about the future. I used to try to develop telekinetic and ESP abilities. As a result of this, I can attest that I had occasional precognitive dreams, had emotional problems, saw a shadow person and thought of suicide on occasion. And I only did this once in a while.

So how does this relate to Qigong? Qigong just so happens to be one of the eastern ways to tap into this “force.” Have a look at the experiences of a former Qigong practitioner, which will show that like those in the west who practice psychic things, Ouija boards and the like, these things can and do happen to those practicing Qigong. (special thanks to China for Jesus’ website) The person giving this testimony attained unbelievable chi powers, and I will show you some of the things he/she said which will emphasize 1) the dangers of Qigong, and 2) show you elements that are in common with other New Age teachings and witchcraft. For those familiar with the New Age (astral projection, spirit contact, etc.) you will likely see similarities. I will point those out for those who are not familiar. Interestingly, some of the things this person was capable of can also be interpreted as “copycat” signs of what Jesus did while he was on earth. I will also put appropriate scripture references when needed.

To spare your time, I will only be touching on a few things from the work. To find out everything, you can read the 9 chapter work for yourself (www.chinaforjesus.com/resources/qigong/chap1.htm), I highly recommend it as it is a gripping story of a descent into darkness, and hope for rescue through Jesus Christ. Quotes from this piece are in italics. Keep an eye out for the similarities pointed out in Deuteronomy.

Elements from Deuteronomy 18:10 - 12

"fortune-telling, sorcery, interpreting omens, engaging in witchcraft, casting spells, functioning as mediums or psychics, calling forth the spirits of the dead."

As noted earlier, anything that promises "ye shall be as gods" is a dead giveaway that something is not in line with God's will for us. Qigong, according to this testimony, promises to make one like a god, or at least immortal if done right. Not all qigong seems to makes this erroneous claim, but it seems that as one goes deeper into qigong, this seems to become a major goal. It should be obvious that limited, finite humans cannot become infinite under our own power.

As my supernormal capabilities multiplied, I gradually understood that the legendary "eight immortals" were actually Taoist qigong masters of high level. They had achieved great success with their qigong practices and had become immortals who would never die. Then my goal was no longer Yan Xin's qigong level, but becoming a figure like the "eight immortals" and acquiring eternal life.


The next section could be taken from the testimony of nearly anyone who has come out of the occult, and some who have been an alien abductee. Many stories from former occultists/New Agers that I’ve heard on “Set The Captives Free” have had many experiences that were similar to this Qigong practitioner’s. The bold words are mentioned in the warning signs from above, and the colored words are what the Bible warns us about.

Another very important reason that some practitioners discarded qigong was that, after they reached a certain level of qigong, they met with some horrible problems. The following are examples of such problems:

· Some practitioners saw horrible things like ghosts, and heard strange voices and words, and experienced troubled days and nights.

· Some practitioners of qigong could heal other people's diseases, but they were powerless with their own. Sometimes the effect was not good with kind people, but was especially good with evil people. This was inscrutable to them.

· Some lost control of their supernormal capabilities and were unable to use them when they needed to. Yet those powers would sometimes come when they were not needed and cause embarrassment for the practitioners who could no longer control them as they would.

· The character and temperament of some practitioners changed lamb-like gentleness to terrifying ferocity. They were full of fear, impetuosity, sorrow, despair, viciousness and pride. They were hateful and filled with lusts.
(Blogger’s note: this happened to me when during a time I believe I was under demonic attack.)

· People around them forsook them, not understanding them, and took them as eccentrics.

· Their lives became more and more frustrating, and incessant unfortunate things followed them. They tried to tolerate such negative occurrences, taking their miseries as trials of qigong, but they gradually found them less and less bearable. Life began to be joyless, and they lived in a gloomy and gray mood.

· Qigong practice often went wrong, and some practitioners became mentally deranged and even died suddenly. Such dangers of qigong were recognized by some.


However, many practitioners who experienced some of the above-mentioned problems and who became afraid of qigong and disappointed with it and even gave it up dared not to let others know their feelings because there were none to understand. They were afraid of becoming a laughingstock for others, so they made up high-sounding excuses for stopping their practice of qigong, burying the pains they had experienced deeply in the bottom of their hearts and letting no one know the very eccentric events in their lives.


This is a brief look at breaking the first of God’s Ten Commandments, that is, having other gods before the God of the Bible. This is likely not common in with all Qigong practitioners, but it bears mentioning.

Learners of Zhang Hongbao Qigong liked to wear Zhang Hongbao badges, for they believed this was a way to connect themselves to their master's energy, which could increase their gong and bless and protect them. I have met many of them in different places. Their god was their master, and their belief was qigong.

And this appears to be a sort of, counterfeit of Christ’s ministry. As He (Christ) healed people, they began to follow and believe in Him in some cases. Some Qigong masters appear to have copycatted this. Of course, Satan likes to copy what God does. These could also be considered “lying signs and wonders” (and possibly is related to 2 Timothy 2:9-10)。

Many of those that had experienced healing by qigong actively taught qigong to others
Those who had acquired supernormal capabilities began to take qigong as their religious belief and continued to seek for higher supernormal capabilities at all costs,

One major supernormal capability I had was healing the sick. I put my hand over the diseased part and could feel energy coming out of my hand. I would feel a kind of exhaustion later on and was very tired sometimes, but the disease that I healed very easily disappeared. There are many different ways to heal the sick; I could heal in whichever way I liked.

They had all achieved very good effects. Mum's health was nearly recovered and she was back at work. She often exclaimed, "Qigong has saved me!"
Many people came to me or had me come to their homes for me to heal the sick. All those healed by me received surprising healing effects. Later, I started to heal remotely. One day a friend came to see me and told me his colleague had an unbearably terrible toothache and asked me to go with him to help him. I said to my friend, "You go back and tell him he is all right now." After a little while, this friend came back to me in great excitement and reported, "The moment I saw my colleague, he told me that his toothache had just stopped." (
very similar to when Jesus healed the for the Roman Centurion!)

Here is something many who practice witchcraft and other New Age things probably know about…astral travel. I knew a witch in High School who claimed she could do this. The author of the Qigong testimony also experienced sleep paralysis. Some believe that one may cause the other, but in either case demonic activity is present. Sleep paralysis can be stopped by sincerely asking Jesus for help, but the caveat seems to be that you have to be a Christian, or at least sincere in asking Jesus Christ for help.

In 1991 I decided to practice "yang shen chu qiao," which is to have one’s soul leave one's body and have it move freely outside the body while leaving the body where it is to wait for the soul to return to it. This is a horrible gong method and very dangerous. But once it was achieved, it would be possible to the person to come back and forth between the spiritual and the material worlds. The reason why I decided to practice this gong method was that I had reached this level and could not have skipped it over. (blogger’s note, astral travel in other New Age circles isn’t viewed as negative, yet is still often frightening. I don't recommend trying it in any event.)

On one night, not long after I started to practice Yan Xin Qigong, I suddenly woke up with a start, for I felt that something was pushing down on me. I was very much afraid and wanted to struggle, but I could not move my body. I tried to cry out, but I could produce only a weak sound. Eventually I sat up abruptly and turned on the lights. This happened repeatedly later and was more and more serious. I began to hear voices speaking and even sounds of people panting. I clearly felt the weight of someone who seemed to have thrown himself on me and clutched my neck.. I could even feel the temperature of his hands. In order to know this was not mere illusion, I went to sleep with the lights on. When I was again pressed on, I opened my eyes and saw a thing in my room and even read words which were on the wall.


And of course, here are some snippets of demonic oppression and/or possession that occurred to this person who was a Qigong practitioner. Luke 6:43,44 should help to remind that we should look at the fruit something produces to judge it properly. One common element in nearly all demonic oppression is that suicide is very often the end result. These symptoms seem to be fairly consistent with many other cases that I’ve read. Some of these are just examples of how the pursuit of more powers and deeper knowledge drive someone to abandon day to day rigors.

I stood still, and very shortly, a kind of power began to shake me, and I rocked back and forth and swayed from side to side.

I was very much surprised and also found it very intriguing. It seemed that my body was giving me a performance. If I could jump out of myself, I would have been like a spectator. I did not know what power was conducting my body. I thought it was an unknown power coming forth from my body, but I was totally wrong.

I then disregarded trifles of life and engaged myself completely in qigong both physically and mentally. I was no longer concerned with my work and my relationship with others and unconsciously secluded myself from others. My girlfriend left me, and I wanted love no more. I even lost interest in my hobby of writing. All these dissipated in light of my qigong as if they no longer belonged to me. The only thing I desired was for qigong to bring me health, supernormal ability and immortal life.

I felt more and more comfortable listening to the recordings on the tapes, and a kind of power was infusing within my body; gradually it spread all over my body and soul. This power began to stir, and my soul felt uneasy and also began to stir. I realized something unusual was happening, but I could not tell what it was. I tried to calm myself down and resisted this power by reasoning. But immediately I knew I had failed. Deciding to yield, I told my parents hastily, "I can't bear it anymore. I want to do something very unusual. I can't stand it!" My voice must have sounded very desperate, for I got them very much concerned for me.
Very slowly, my sensations became illusory too. After I do not know how long, I suddenly knelt down, and that power forcefully pushed my head downward to the ground.
After a little while, my hand pulled up some grass beside me and put it into my mouth. I chewed, and at once it felt as if a spring had rushed out; I swallowed down a lot, and my throat thirsted no more.

My forehead began to sink, and I had a special feeling at my tianmu, which is the so-called third eye on the human body. Once anyone has his/her tianmu opened, he/she will be able to see many things invisible to human eyes, and his/her supernormal capabilities will be enhanced.

Because as Yan Xin had said, "Chinese medicine and qigong come from one origin."
I realized why Buddhist monks like to eat vegetables because I began to hate eating meat and to prefer vegetables. Although I had always liked vegetables since my childhood, I ate only vegetables now and could even smell a kind of fishy smell in eggs. That smell made me nauseated.

I began to practice divination and divine by the Eight Trigrams. There were very often groups of people coming to my office in my work unit to ask me to tell fortunes for them. People who needed to make some major decisions would come to consult me, get some suggestions from me, and then leave happily.

I also realized what in essence Yan Xin's "qi-remitting" lectures were. I experimented with some people who also cried, or laughed or danced without stopping
.(THIS IS HAPPENING IN SOME CHURCHES THAT FOLLOW The NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION. See View From the Bunker’s podcasts)

There were clear signs that my character was becoming vile and corrupt. My previous gentle and amiable personality had at this point been replaced by extraordinary irritability and quick temper.

Due to the supernormal capabilities I had in me, I became very proud of myself
I felt my own supernormal ability stirred and very soon lost control of myself under a power unlike any that I had experienced before.

"It" wanted me to walk towards the window and commanded me to jump out of the window.


That is a very brief look at the effects Qigong has had on a person’s life. It almost ended his life, it was only after he renounced it and came to Jesus Christ and being reconciled to the Living, Most High God through Him was he able to be freed from this oppression. Demons, entities, "aliens," and ghosts are all the same, and can only be stopped through faith in Jesus Christ.

I encourage you again to read the entire story, as it all starts out very innocently, but as with all things occult, Qigong becomes a slippery slope that draws one deeper and deeper into Satan’s clutches. It is also, a pretty textbook case of demonic oppression/posession.

Because this happened to one person, does it mean that everyone who does Qigong will go through this? Probably not. But in a game of Russian Roulette, not everyone pulling the trigger will be shot. Even if you don’t end up under demonic oppression by practicing Qigong, does that mean you should do it? Should a church be offering classes on it? We've seen how on a basic level it's witchcraft, and makes us into our own god which breaks the first commandment.

The Prophet Isaiah says it best, “should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?” Why practice Qigong in church instead of praying and reading the Bible? What about doing what Jesus said by feeding and clothing those in need? Christians should not only avoid Qigong because it's essentially witchcraft, but it also takes away from the work we should be doing. That is, leading people to Christ and destroying the works of the devil. It is this aspect that makes Qigong something that definitely not be allowed to occur even on church property. Christians should avoid it at all costs.

The church is God’s house of prayer, not a place to practice meditation and possibly encounter demons. It is akin to setting up a Ouija board (and even New Agers are cautious with Ouija boards) in the pews, or doing a Tarot deck in the fellowship hall. If you wouldn't want that stuff in your church, then qigong shouldn't be either.

Qigong will not bring you closer to God, but will only bring you closer to hell. Here are some scriptures that emphasize that point.

1 Tim 4:1, 2

Isaiah 8:19, 20

2 John 1:7-11

Jude 1:4


Below are some links for those who (Christians included) don’t believe contact with demons is possible, through Qigong or other means, this will also help reveal that these spirits are not from God. Some Christians don’t believe there are demons around. If that were true, why would we have these verses? I have seen nothing else in the Bible that has said that demons would disappear after the Bible was written and given to us.

2 Cor 11:4

1 John 4

Jude 1:8

1 Sam 28:3-8

Luke 6:43,44


In conclusion, if you are thinking about learning Qigong, pay heed to the testimony of one who practiced it. That person wrote 9 chapters of how it ruined their life and almost drove them to suicide. People don’t write 9 chapters unless there is a good reason too. If you have practiced it, and found your experience to be similar, what are you going to do about it? Do you want to remain practicing something that will only end in your own destruction? Do you want to be set free? If so, please ask God to help you. Invite Jesus Christ, the Living Son of God into your heart. Confess your sins, and ask Him to set you free from this bondage. If you need some resources, http://www.shatterthedarkness.net/ is extremely helpful. As is the Revelations Radio Podcast on itunes (and the internet). Jesus can set you free.

Jesus Christ can and will set you free, all you have to do is believe in Him, and ask Him into your heart. Believe He died for our sins, and was resurrected from the dead. Believe that He is the Son of God.

51 comments:

  1. Fantastic, thanks for writing this. I've had a lot of sleep paralysis from trying to do Kung Fu on and off for many years. I don't want anything to do with the meditation or the philosophy part of it. I just want to learn to defend myself. Even just punching a punching bag can bring me under oppression, it's massively irritating and feel like I'm a girl not allowed to learn self defence. Anyway this article was great. I'm getting that book now from that ChiKung practitioner..

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  2. Thanks anon! Give thx to God, Jesus and His Spirit. Also check out stopsleepparalysis with Tom Bionic (mike tatar jr.) They help a ton of people with it. In Christ, you can be free. Keep in touch here!

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  3. When you learn qigong, yoga, tai chi or martial art with real depth (not taekwondo or any modern art) you can experience many things that will cause you to realise that Jesus most certainly new about it all. An integration of mind, body and spirit; that is the true aim of these practices.

    Always remember my friend that Jesus was not a christian as christianity was formed after his death. If you took 12 friends and after your death they were to pass on your most 'learned experiences' how many could you really hope to give a glowing impression to others of your legacy? This is how I view Christianity. I find it a shame that as a healer and teacher of thees arts a number of my private clients have, despite seeing remarkable improvements in their health - beyond the comprehension of their doctors and physicians, been largely shunned by their respective christian churches.

    I would say that the modern church (by that I mean anything from John the Baptist onwards) has an invested interest in getting its followers to NOT open up and experience life - something that Jesus did want people to do.

    You claim that such 'liberation' comes from gloryfying Jesus' death and reading scripture and prayer. But these things are only mental and spiritual in nature and thus largely unbalanced and lacking because of the omission of the physical (getting on your knees and pressing hands together is really the 'postition' of something else).

    Jesus - lived his life without self-imposed limitation and this is what he preached. Without yogic/meditative breathing techniques how do you really think his very 'human' body could prolong such cruel suffering upon the cross?

    I'd suggest to you and your readers that you ponder this notion of the holy trinity more closely - because if you ignore the physical (and it must be something that integrates mental and spiritual - i.e not a competitive sport)then you will become nothing more than the many priests and bishops and popes I have seen over the generations; all of whom seem somewhat lacking in constitution and are hunched with a heavy burden.

    Stop carrying your 'psycho-physical' crosses and be free. Jesus did not suffer so you don't have to - he taught about suffering and the way out of suffering... Around 500 years later his spirit came back as and tried to show more people - this time emphasising this very real aspect of unifying the holy trinity.

    Your article talks about the 'occult' but when you then list the things that one 'connected to the occult' can do I think of all those who wandered in deserts and 'saw angels, heard voices, were 'given devine' messages, prophesised the future'.... I think you can see what I am getting at. Either these people were not human or they were 'connected' to devine influences... the 'Force' if you like.

    When I look at all the creations of Tai Chi, Qigong, Yoga etc I see the same stories being retold with just different names and themes.

    A well structured and thoughtout contemplation on Qigong but there are no real dangers if one has the right guidance. Some sheep lose their way and use the incredible power to do harm and damage - others are motivated from universal love.

    I believe you are on that path my friend but will close by saying that in order to experience and radiate true love you must be fearless; you must learn to heal the dis-ease of fear. Do not hide within your body - that is not the way to liberation and salvation.

    Peace on your journey

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    1. I respectfully disagree. Although as Christian of 25 yrs, I would have agreed with you most of those years.
      I was a student of martial arts for years. Remarkable strength, Heath changes.

      But one, I bought the lie for years that that was the only wy to health since most gyms offer little real exercise. I have the same benefits with boxing.

      Two, the issue is basically that it derives it's power from another source beyond us that is not from YHWH. It is a powerful source, but not pleasing to my Lord.

      Three, most current ministers and so called Christians are not examples of real faith. I do agree YHWH built us for an outdoor physical lifestyle. If one ignores that, we reap the consequences of poor health. I do not refer to those born with challenges or stricken by disease. I refer to the potentially healthy overweight ministers who eat more than the poor they serve.

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  4. Hi no-one #2.

    I kept your comment, though I disagree with your overall view. In the interest of love, I won't point those out.

    A few things you said I agree with

    1 - Jesus knew about the new agey stuff...but He did NOT practice it. He practiced prayer, and exercising the power of the Most High God. He also knew, and fulfilled God's Word.

    2 Jesus was not a Christian. True, He is THE Christ. The Word of God, made flesh. The Son of the Living God. He was also a practicing Jew, and the fulfilment of probably more than 300 specific old testament prophecies.

    3 - hiding in the body...hmmmm. it is not the way to salvation, Jesus Christ is. And we are told not to contact spirits in the old and new testaments, and qigong WILL bring contact with spirits.

    Read the China for Jesus Testimony, don't take my word for it.

    # 4 fearlessness by faith and relationship in Jesus Christ will overcome ANY barrier.

    I will add u to my prayers no-one #2.

    Peace.

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  5. From no-one#2

    Thank you for adding me to your prayers on October 24th - but really, I wish you hadn't as I had a terrible nights sleep.

    Powerful magic that praying stuff.

    Your response came accross as rather blinded. You might as well tell your readers "don't think for yourself - it can lead to danger"... Jesus worked bloody hard in the first part of his life, he most certainly did have an understanding of physical endurance and how to unify it with the mind/body matrix.

    I take the bible with a pinch of salt, it was not written by Christ and from what it teaches of the man I feel that during a '2nd coming' the first place he is going to let rip on and tear down is vatican city.

    Anyway, I am not here to try and convert you from your chosen path, we all need to make our own mistakes.

    I'm not coming again; I 've decided there are more constructive ways to spend my time than trying to heal the blindness of scripture.

    Peace be with you but please don't add me to your prayers again - it burns =P

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  6. And yet, Jesus still loves you and wants to be in relationship with you.

    Vatican city is hardly THE authority on Christianity, as there is much catholicism has that is not in the Bible. Just check out the Mary blog I did, or Richard Bennett(sp?)

    The Bible was not written by Christ, you are right. As chuck missler says "It's 66 books, by 40 authors, yet it's an integrated message system from outside our time domain"

    That's why so many details in the old testament point to Jesus. The NT is all about how to live in faith in Jesus. That's my understandin anyways.

    A little burning now is good for you :P. Maybe Jesus is trying to get your attention.

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  7. You are a retard, big time :D

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  8. Guilty as charged.

    To steal a phrase from a brother in the Lord.

    "I'm so intellectually uncoordinated I have to wear a crash helmet to a chess match."

    Peace

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  9. There are four branches of Qigong.

    Medical - specific postures that have been studied in modern times and have shown to improve over 200 different diseases
    Martial - Kung Fu and Tai Chi, stregthening joints and ligaments in the body, improving balance, body awareness and sometimes used as self-defense
    Health - Exercises that promote peace, longevity, mental clarity
    Religious - Confucian, Buddhist and Daoist.

    Religious Qigong is the hardest type to practice. One must be a monk and devote their life to the practice. There are over 2,000 different styles of Qigong. It sounds there was a lack of proper training and possibly not the correct style. I am a practicing Christian and a Qigong Instructor, and in full confidence know I am connecting to Jesus Christ in a deeper way through this practice.

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  10. Thanks for the comment, but I will disagree with you that practicing qigong will bring you closer to Jesus. Where in the Bible does it say that meditation (in the form of qigong style) will bring you closer to Jesus?

    Yes, we are to meditate on God's word, but that is wholly different than meditating to increase flow of chi.

    I used to practice my own form of meditation to try to facilitat chi or "energy" flow, and it never once brought me closer to the Lord. While I never experienced the extremes in "China for Jesus' " case, I do belive this meditation opened the door to satan and I had sleep paralysis. I believe this also played a role in my later faith struggles. Satan had this foothold on me, I didn't renounce it and so he was able to muck with me in various ways. I have since renounced and repented of this.

    If you are a sincere Christian, and I take you at your word, you need to bring this to the Lord Jesus Christ in sincere prayer. Ask the Holy Spirit to show you if this is wrong. God will show you the truth. I will pray for you my friend.

    God bless

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  11. I agree with the author of this blog. I believe that QiGong, Tai Chi, Yoga etc. are not something that people should be fooling around with. I have twice read Hsiao Guangs published book, Breaking Down the Barriers of Darkness: Exposing the Cult of QiGong for What It Is.
    Hsiao explains that he experienced many paranormal, demonic, and oppressive things as well as heard of others who experienced these things to some extent, whether large or small.

    I would like to point out that medically in the case of Mental Health, there is a condition refered to as Culture Bound Syndrome. This is a medical term given in the DSM-IV. The DSM-IV is a medical text used as diagnostic criteria for mental disorders.
    Qigong psychotic reaction is a disorder listed as a Culture Bound Syndrome.
    Since many asian people in China practise Tai Chi and Qigong related exercises, medicine has added a "psychiatric disease" that seems to be prevalent within their culture and is associated with QiGong disciplines.

    I believe that there may be a strong correlation between demonic/spiritual oppression and the medical and physical manifestations that are being documented within modern medicine in China related to Qigong psychotic reaction.

    Similarily I would like to draw attention to the fact that people are using Tai Chi and Qigong for health benefits.
    Of course we already know this. But it begs the question; If there is a Spiritual/Demonic force that is behind these exercises and many are receiving great health results, would it not make sense that there can also be negative health consequences as well if it is demonic in origin? My logic tells me Yes.

    Then why are people reporting these negative health consequences? Why are we only hearing about the good things, but not so much about the negative aspects?
    It seems the more we explore further into meditative exercises, and moving meditation, there is a common theme.
    Yoga, Tai Chi, QiGong have a demonic origin. Many have given testimony of being involved and set free from the oppressive aspects of studying these disciplines.

    As Christians, we cannot ignore this. So many Christians are starting yoga, and tai chi classes, all in the name of medical science and promoting better health.

    I personally feel that as Christians we can achieve excellent health if we eat properly. Fruits, vegetables, and grains, healthy meats, and get a moderate amount of exercise, we can live blessed, productive, and enriched lives through Christ.

    Ephesians 6:12 explains;

    We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. ESV translation.

    I think we overlook this passage too much as Christians.

    I myself was accepted to study acupuncture and oriental medicine, but did not attend due to part of the cirriculum having Tai Chi and Qigong classes. I had read Hsiao Guangs book around that time and felt very uneasy about participating in these classes. I believe that on the outside they may look harmless, but there is a spiritual dimension going on around us everyday that we are not aware of. As for oriental medicine, I am still trying to understand it more fully.

    I suppose my conclusion that I have drawn thus far is that Tai Chi, Qigong and Yoga are windows into the demonic realm and would caution those who are involved with it. The more research one does on these things and the further one studies it seems that there is an occultic and demonic origin. Many people have experienced negative demonic and spiritual aspects of these disciplines. They always seem to emphasize, "The deeper you go, the worse it becomes".

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  12. My daughter and I recently took a seminar on QiGong to get CEUs for nursing (which they did not give,) but she got them for massage therapist. When it started he talked on food, Bible verses and etc and I though WOW by the end of the 4 days I knew it was a bit off, to say the least, my daughter bought the tapes, books and etc, and I am frightened for her , she is a Christian (but not as grounded as Iam), and thinks this will help her as did I before I found this site, I looked because I did not feel comfortable thought the speaker was dynamic, I felt a wall between myself and him and I told several of his collegues. I met another like minded Christian, the seminar was 99.00 4 days cheap , guess thats how they get you. I hate we went and my daughter bought the tapes and etc, but I cannot tell her this, I am praying God will give her wisdom. If you are a Christian pray she will not practice this her name is Debbie, after the program they gave us a paper for comments which I said there is only ONe True God , and His son Jesus Christ who is the only Saviour of the world (not a prophet), so I told them how I felt, but this stuff scares me to the fullest. Do not know how to handle my daughter.

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    1. Wow, it gets easier and easier to be mislead.

      I will pray for debbie, please report back and share how God has moved. I am a believer in Jesus Christ. He is my Lord and Savior and He will move on Debbie.

      Later!

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  13. El Shadai You are the Almighty and True God, I ask that you deliver Debbie from Qigong and may she never inquire about it again. I plead the blood of Jesus over her life now, and trust that you will pull this little lamb back into the loving care of the True Shephard. Amen

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  14. Nice article, thanks for writing. BUT. I'm a Christian and I've been practising Qigong and Tai Chi for a couple of months, so I'd like to say somrthing. There were many reasons, e.g. backpain, improving ballance or finding an internal peace (from time to time I couldn't calm down easily). It's very important to find out where is the "border" after which is Qigong dangerous to you. There is a difference between practising Qigong just for health purposes and practising it with certain interest in Daoism (if you're a Chrístian), if you know what I mean.

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    1. I get what you mean, and appreciate your comment.

      I would ask though, why play with fire by pushing the limit? why stick your hand in the lion's cage, poking the lion then take your hand out at the last second as he tries to bite you? One day, you he may catch you. Satan knows where the "border" is, and I can guarantee you he can trick you into going over it, especially if you think you can stop right at it.

      There are other ways to deal with backpain, like chiropractic. My chiropractor has done wonders in healing me. And I didn't have to go into qigong for relief. Other health issues can be dealt with without qigong as well, and much more effectively.

      And as a Christian, getting inner peace from qigong basically means you are relying on your own ability to gain peace. To gain peace by playing with demonic power. As Christians, our peace comes from Jesus Christ and from Him alone. Why settle for peace you can reach on your own through qigong? Why not go to the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ. He loves you, He died for your. Qigong did none of these.

      Here are some Bible verses on peace, please read.

      http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/bible-verses-about-peace-20-great-scripture-quotes/

      I apologize if these words are harsh, such is not my intent. I just want to cause you to question where you are at with Jesus and why you're not seeking peace from the source of it.

      Remember, Jesus said, no man can serve two masters. You can either pursue qigong and become our own master or you can follow the master you claim, Jesus Christ.

      Lastly, if this is any consolation. I recently slept in a room where I know someone did qigong. This person does qigong merely for health, and "knows the border" as you say. And although. I typically pray for protection before sleep, that night something was off with me and my prayers (maybe I forgot) and guess what. Sleep paralysis. It wasn't bad, but I felt something pushing on me and verbally asked Jesus for help as it awoke. And it stopped.

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    2. Sleep paralysis you say? I've never experienced it (and to be honest, I don't want to) and never met any Qigong practicioner who experienced it, but thanks for warning.
      In the past I prayed rosary to gain internal peace and it worked (please, no anti-Catholic comments), but when I compare "God-gained peace" with "Qigong-gained peace" it's something...well, let's simply say different. It was deeper and longer. I also noticed that I spent less time with God - I was still active in my parish, but on personal level I spent less time with prayer, broke some of my resolutions and so - but there were many other factors which could be responsible for it, so who knows.

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    3. The story I linked has a practitioner who experienced SP. I used to do my own sort of qigong and experienced it once as well.

      I can guarantee you, if you stop doing qigong, repent and turn back to Jesus Christ as the source of your rightness for God if you do experience SP it will only stop by calling on Jesus.

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  15. Interesting posts! I am a devout Catholic and practice Qigong. Unlike the churches of some protestant brothers and sisters, meditation and contemplative prayer are not foreign to Catholics. We have practiced both with an intense focus on Christ for centuries before and after the Reformation. Of course, the real issue is,"What do you believe about Qigong?" If it is exercise, it is good. If it is a religious practice that rejects Christ, it is bad.

    The Apostle Paul taught about eating meat offered to idols. A problem for some and not others. He claimed the monument to the unknown god for Christ, although Christ could hardly have been on the mind of the designer. Christ Himself interacted with pagans and Samaritans, marveled at their faith and NEVER warned them to avoid exercise, because the wrong kind might land you in hell!

    My problem with all of your warnings, with all due respect, is that they can be applied to anything from Qigong to baseball. As any good fan of America's favorite past time knows, superstition is a major element of the game for many players ranging from Sammy Sousa to Babe Ruth. Yet, I see no warnings against this sport and its meaning for many fans and players.

    You mentioned Chiropractors. These are the "professionals" who tell us not to vaccinate our children, yes? Hardly, a step above Chinese exercise.

    Remember, anything can become a false idol and open portals to damnation, folks. Keep your eyes on the prize (Christ), learn to discern the Spirit of truth from lies, and be well.

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    1. I agree and disagree with you on several points, no biggie that's called discussion :)

      I'll say this.

      Using paul's "meat and idols argument is a far cry from engaging the demonic realm through qigong. Using this logic (which I've tried to in the past for this and tai chi) you could jusgt as well apply it to using tarot cards, ouija boards or channelling.

      Not to bash Catholics, but the CC's laissez faire/accepting attitude about meditation, etc. May be a big reason why many leaving the CC go into the New Age. Again, I'm not bashing Catholics (that's sort of where my own origin is anyways) but I would say ANY church accepting this kind of stuff is on the wrong road. From the presbyterian church having tai chi/qigong classes, to the Lutherans or whoever.

      If you want to take advice from Paul, read 1 Timothy 4:1. He might be talking about qigong among many other things. Actually, i'd read the whole chapter.

      Peace.

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  16. I agree with the author of this post. Very well written, and informative.

    I believe even practising Qi Gong for health purposes can be dangerous. Yes, why push the boundary?

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  17. yeah, I agree with the author, I experiences half the demonic exposures the author writes about. While practicing Qigong, I was oppressed by demonic forces during my sleep and my soul jump out of my body during one of the oppression. On separate occasions, in a dream like vision, my soul saw, "Death", "Freddy the nightmare" and two Asian spirits. All this while my mental state was fully awake.

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    1. Thanks for the comment, I hope that you turn to Jesus, He can and will deliver you from this sort of evil.

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  18. I don't understand this post. I've never heard of qigong until a few days ago, and every reference to it on the internet through a google search always leads to something called "qigong deviation", so it seems to me that the medical community is aware of something in this "qigong" that is harmful to the psyche. Is it demon-possession or spiritually related? Who knows, but there seems to be enough evidence out there that points to it being harmful to some degree "if practiced incorrectly, or if practiced with an inexperienced master". I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis, and my search for freedom from pain on the internet led me to qigong. I must admit I am still intrigued, but I do not think I will be practicing this for my health now that I understand it can be harmful, and that you have to watch out that you don't cross the "border" - whatever that means. Anything that I have to worry about crossing the border with tells me I shouldn't mess with it. That's like saying smoking marijuana is harmless, but it has been proven to be a gateway drug for the hard stuff over and over again. That's like the alcoholic saying "I'm only going to have one more drink.". It is silly how we humans rationalize dangerous behavior, but we do time and again.

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    1. Good idea, best not to mess with it!

      I knew a lady who did qigong, and eventually started to have weird feelings and encountered a (presumably demonic) entity, so she stopped.


      As for your arthritis, i hear that pearled barley is good at helping get rid of it. I think you would need the larger kernel size available in most Asian grocery stores. I'm not a doctor, nor qualified to dispense medical advice, but i heard tell of somebody reversing the beginning stages of their arthritis by eating barley.

      don't know if that helps, but thanks for your comment!

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  19. Qigong has been excellent is helping me regain my ability to live each day with fewer and less frequent bouts of debilitating pain. Though I still take some drugs to keep the intensity of my pain under control, and have had minimal brain surgery as well to locate and treat the trigeminal nerve problem, qigong has been a companion form of exercise to relieve my pain, and it works!

    Many years ago, I overdosed on psychodelic drugs, and struggled for a number of years with exactly the same kinds of problems associated with the evil this and other websites associate with demonic forces. One night so very long ago now, I knew I was going to die from these "presences" all around me. They were wicked beings that came at first as peaceful and I must add, erotic in nature. I was an emerging adult at tht time and exploring astral projection and all that stuff associated with demonism, but. at the time, I did not believe Jesus could be anyone's saviour. So, after becoming a Christian, and still suffering these bouts of weird precenses that threatened my life, one night, without being able to do anything else, I just started saying the name Jesus, over and over again, and praying that Jesus would save me. It was like being between awake and asleep while this was going on. I was having the life crushed from me by a large number of invisible beings who wanted the worse for me. So, I prayed, "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, help me, save me". It was a war over me, that's for sure. Suddenly, it was as if Jesus made them disappear, and a voice broadcast in my mind comforted me with the words,"You are healed. You will never have to worry about this problem again.". I felt a deep sense of love towards Jesus and thankfulness for my life. What a powerful testimony. Now, this many years later, that whole scene is just a memory and to me, a neverending joy. Qigong would never have helped me with the issue I had at that time. It may well have been the road to my end.

    So, why am I practicing it now? Trigeminal neuralgia is extremly painful. Jesus helps me cope with dealing with the challenges of the condition, and qigong helps me rather like biofeedback. I believe that it is not qigong that is the problem for people who become demon infested, but the existent problems those people have aside from qigong. This is why qigong makes their problem worse, not better. I pray all the time for Jesus to comfort me and love me while doing qigong. When I focus on chi, I marvel at God's almighty greatness of which all things belong. Everything in this world belongs to God. The evil ones who wiggle into our lives do so from God's allowance due to Satan's hold on our world at this time. God is mightier than Satan, and Jesus is mightier than Satan. I say," get away from me Satan, you have no power over me. Jesus made a promise to me long ago, and the love of God is always greater than the love of Satan, because Satan is pure hate disquised as love.".

    I am not trying to manufacture a designer religion. I love Jesus, the Jesus who healed me so long ago. I have witnessed my young adult son die slowly of a brain tumor. His walk with Jesus was beyond wonderful to see, but his pain was as terrible as having my own skin stripped off piece by piece. So devastataing was his death to me, that nine minths later I developed trigeminal neuralgia. Prayers seemed not to be answered, but I have never lost faith in Jesus, or the almighty power of God over all. Thanks be to God and all of the good things he provides, even qigong.

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    1. Thanks for your story. I disagree with your view on qigong obviously, but I won't rehash the reasons above.

      You are right about Jesus, He can and will save you from demons.

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    2. @anonymous
      I feel for you as you suffer from a condition with no good options and terrible pain that few understand. I hung on to martial arts as Christian for years due to the health benefits. I've switched to another sport but same intensity without the mental aspect.
      But for you it's tough. I can only say pray YHWH/Yahushua will show you a way to deal with your condition. I will also pray you keep studying. I reread the OT again with new eyes and it finally hit home what it was all about.
      I also read up on Enoch, the fallen Angels and what they taught men.
      Keep on your guard for any state, even TV watching that induces a hypnotic state is a potential gateway. But above that my reading convicted me the issue is bigger and so I personally switched.
      So for you 1 Cor 10:13

      And to others, realize doctors are offerring her likely choices that are no better in the case for the standpoint of the Bible. So I have no answers, but know YHWH does. He sees your suffering and I know He will help you if you keep searching.

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  20. Afternoon, thanks for this post and for pointing me towards reading: "Breaking Through the Barriers of Darkness: Recognizing the Cult of Qigong for What It Is by Hsiao Guang." (http://bit.ly/LcZW7l).

    I have actually just started taijiquan last week. Will read up, be alert, and make a decision.

    Many thanks.

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  21. Thanks mash I appreciate your comment. Definitely take it to the Lord before doing anymore taiji. I also wrote a taiji article recently, see if that helps.

    I wish u the best, and prayed for you!

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  22. Sleep paralysis is normal for EVERYONE during sleep. It keeps us from physically acting during our dreams. Sleep walking is physically acting during our sleep. Thank goodness sleep paralysis usually prevents us from moving during our dreams.

    Sure it's scary the first time to wake suddenly from a dream and not be able to move right away. But, with practice AND if the need is great enough (battlefield, or crying baby, etc.) you can learn how to quickly emerge from the sleep state.

    Please don't assign a "demonic" label to a natural process that God put there to protect us (from doing something stupid while we're dreaming).

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    1. That's great, except for all the times that I had sleep paralysis. I felt something physically holding me down or pushing on me. Once, it was choking me. The only way it stopped was calling on the name of Jesus Christ.

      That doesn't sound like a natural process to me. Nor did it feel like one when I went through it.

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  23. This is perfect! This post is telling the truth! I used to practice with Qi Gong before due to excessive greed from conquering powers. I absolute see demons and shadows when I sleep. Qi gong is not a key to superhuman being but a key to the people's soul to be stolen by Satan. I have seen a shadow a bold shadow figure on my room before. Also, sleep paralysis as well for 4 years. It stopped permanently when I asked for Jesus Christ help to get rid of demons on me. That is when I had my peaceful day forever of my life. JESUS CHRIST IS THE REAL GOD THAT HELPS TO GET RID OF DEMONS. I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIST WITH MY HEART AND SPIRIT!

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  24. To those seeking a healthy path. It took me a long time to give up the martial arts and be convinced it was wrong as a Christian. But as a woman, I do feel for the poster wondering what to do. I've turned to boxing workouts. And self defense techniques work without the Chi element.

    If boxing is wrong, please feel free you all to comment. I'm on a steep earning curve.

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    1. Boy, I don't know!

      I guess the whole point is to be discerning, and if taps dark powers, avoid it.

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  25. @anonymous
    Please respect what people are going through. I have had the sleep paralysis that is normal. It was nothing like the experience people are describing. I am capable of instantaneous awaking as I have trained myself to do that. But I still suffered these episodes of paralysis, trying to speak and aware of the people around me, but unable to breathe or move.
    But there is a level people are describing that something else is taking a normal out of sync process to another level.
    And I've unfortunately due to my extensive martial arts past seen plenty. So if anyone was prone to dreaming weird stuff in that state, I was, but did not.

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  26. To no one

    One question.
    If I have exposed my child to these influences, is it up to them to resist, or is there anything I can do. I have already stopped.

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    1. Tough question, and depends on the age of the Child.




      I would:


      1) repent of it sincerely, and ask Jesus to show you any open doors, and ask Him to close those. Ask Him to remove any demonic beings from your house, and to show you if you need to throw anything out.

      2) pray over your child, ask Jesus to cover them with His protection. If they're old enough, teach them to rely on Jesus and accept Him as savior. Tell them if they encounter anything, go to Jesus.

      3) I don't know if it's scriptural, but LA Marzulli annoints his hotel rooms with oil, and prays to have any evil spirits to go away. He consecrates the room I guess. I'd hit him up on his blog or email.

      That's all I got. Usually when I have spirit attacks, I cry out to Jesus Christ, they stop. I repented of "open doors" asked Jesus to close them, and He did. If that don't work, let me know, or contact La marzulli or tom bionic (stopsleepparalysis) I'll do what I can, which admittedly is very little. Jesus is THE way to stop any skullduggery

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  27. This is an interesting thread and topic. As I understand that the thread is mainly designed as a warning to Qigong practitioners, I am more curious about what the author has to contribute on appropriate ways to move in the power of God. Your suggestions on getting closer to God through prayer and bible reading are all good, though my perception of Christianity is not to get closer to God, it is to be restored to God and to begin operating as a vessel of His divine power and authority on earth.

    I believe that the bible also states that, "These signs shall follow those who believe. . .they shall heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, etc."

    If Qigong is not an appropriate way to move in this power, that is fine. Though I encourage you to tell us what is.

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    1. Good question!

      As you say, Christianity isn't merely moving closer to God, it is being restored to God. Jesus Christ is the only way to a relationship with God, and through that relationship, God will use His power through those that believe to do those things and more, but only for the purpose of bringing people to His Son Jesus Christ.

      If you read "The Cross and the Switchblade" you can see God's power at work. It wasn't David Wilkerson on his own, but rather God using a wiling servant to spread the Gospel. As a result, God provided miracles and people got saved. Same thing in the bookd of Acts, God provided miracles to bring people to Him through faith in Jesus Christ and Him crucified and risen according to the scriptures.

      I hope that answers the question. Jesus Christ is the only way to move and act in power, but it's much more than just miracles and power. The real miracle is God changing the heart of an unbeliever and His mercy in accepting us.

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  28. Jesus is Lord of all! What do you think of the newest exercise craze using "Qi"? Examples Qiforze, Qidance, etc. This is why i'm searching and your website is very informative. I don't want to get anywhere near what the Lord hates!

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  29. I'd err on the side of caution and assume anything with qi/chi or other energy manipulation is contrary to God. all spiritual energy comes from one of two places. Gpd or satan. their is no neutral "Force" people can tap into.

    God has made It clear the only way to Him is thru Jesus Christ, while chi taps into our own energy, or the world energy (the prince of the power of the air, satan). God gives power as a gift, to help further the spread of the Gospel, while satan gives power to deceive, buildb oride. and achieve parlor tricks.

    so avoid qi exercise.

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  30. Actually the Bible says what every you do in life do in the name of Christ who delivered the word. So, Qigong is not satanic unless you let it become that. I've been a Christian my whole life and practice qigong a lot. Nothing bad came out. Plus, all of this new age stuff is not a practice in Qigong. I read several books on this and qigong is about using the spirit to heal you. God blew his breath into Adam's nostrils giving him the breath of life. So, God's breath dwells in us all. This in my opinion and according to the Bible is the Holy Spirit. So, Qigong is ok. Should it be practiced in Church along with Tai Chi. Probably not, just because church is supposed to be about God or Jesus which ever faith you are. Tai Chi is good for self deffence, so theres nothing wrong with that either. Just keep God in mind in all things you do and you will be fine.

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  31. @ Brandon...So as long as I fornicate or commit adultery or murder or lie in the name of Christ I am justified? No that is taking it out of context... Qigong's origin is witchcraft...Manipulation of the Human Spirit/Soul/Molecular structure of the Body ALL via demonic power. The enemy counterfeits EVERYTHING that God does. You can not "Christianize" or sanctify unto Christ that which has it's root and origin in darkness.

    The Bible also says that a wicked and perverse generation chases after a sign. And that even the elect shall be deceived because of the great deception. That in the end believers will cry out that they had done great miracles in Jesus Name, and He will reply that they should depart because He NEVER knew them. That we should test ALL spirits and that even if an angel spoke of a different Christ that we should not receive it. If it should not be practiced in Church then we should not participate as we ARE the church.


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  32. Qigong involves demonic activity. If you see videos of high level practitioners having super human strength, invisible force fields - you should ask yourself 'where do these people derive their supernatural powers'. It is definitely not from The LORD because qigong does not follow biblical principles, and qigong has pagan origins. Also, it is also a well known fact that at advance levels of practice, demons will enter the practitioner if he fails to control his qi properly thereby ceding control to demons.

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