Thursday, September 29, 2011

Christian Persecution in America

Persecution in america

Picture a small Bible study getting fined or arrested for meeting and studying God's Word. Imagine Christians being barred from jobs or schools because we believe that Christ has risen from the dead.

We often hear about stories like these (and these coming from China, or Iran and America criticizes them for it. This also comes up in some Muslim countries, especially when we're looking for an excuse to bomb them. Usually the media and government officials turn their noses at them as "barbarians" and human rights violaters. Or some candidate for office decries their violation of freedom.

Of course we also know that some of this is how the holocaust in WWII Nazi Germany started. Those who don't learn from history...

What we never expect is for this sort of stuff to happen in America. The bastion of freedom, a "Christian" nation (although Chris Pinto can easily refute that). We are the land of "Jesusa" bumper stickers and churches where marines rappel from the roof tops on July 4 (thanks future quake for that one!) But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I think persecution of Christians is already happening in America, and serious persecution will be not far behind.
Anyone who doubts an anti-Christian sentiment is at work in the culture should look around. Bill Maher frequently mocks Christians, Ned Flanders on the Simpons is what we are to others. And for a more sinister proof, just look at the drudgeretort blog. Its as if the author took the Protocols of Zion and replaced "Jew" with "Christian."

This is not to diminish those who suffer and die in Christ all over the world. We still have it easy here, but i fear not for much longer. Some believe that this persecution will even be at the hands of the big denominations. I wouldn't be surprised, but more on that later.

Here are some links i've been gathering for a week or two, and i wish i had time for more, but the Alex Jones one has about 18, so for any naysayers this should suffice. I don't normally advocate (nor rail against) infowars, but they sometimes have good stuff. Sometimes.


I doubt that's all of them.

But this should not surprise any of us. Jesus Himself warned us that we would be persecuted for our faith. The World hated Him, so it will hate us. And i believe He even told us how to respond to it.

Despite Jesus' instructions, many American/western Christians presume that if we're about to be persecuted, robbed etc. that we have not only the right, but the Divine obligation to use lethal force upon others. I think that before using violence, one should consider the ramifications of the violence, which ultimately is likely sending an unsaved person to hell. I would say that in most circumstances the use of violence is not what Christ would have us do, particularly as it relates to being persecuted for our faith. Prayer, Bible study and discernment is needed though on your part well before such a choice presents itself to prepare you.

Keep in mind, this study is mostly in the vein of getting picked up by the authorities or others merely for believing on Christ, and does not cover self defense for other situations like robbery and the like. That has been addressed in a previous post.

Some American Christians often use this passage as justification. After all, if Jesus said to carry swords He obviously wanted us to use them, right?

Luke 22:36 - 38

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.


49 - 51

When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?

And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.

And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.

Or as the new living translation says it

Luke 22:51

But Jesus said, "No more of this." And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

Notice that Jesus undid Peter's attack. He didn't stop Peter, nor did He chastise Him much either. But i think we can infer by what Jesus did by healing that He would rather not have us Christians using weapons to avoid arrest for our faith.

No, if we are to be conformed to the image of Christ, we are to follow His example. After all, if He who was the only one worthy of escaping death went anyways, how can we justify ourselves escaping by violence? When we are persecuted Jesus says quite clearly what we are to do. Now i do believe we need to pray about this and ready our hearts now, so that when the time comes we are ready.

Luke 21:12-19

"But before all this occurs, there will be a time of great persecution. You will be dragged into synagogues and prisons, and you will stand trial before kings and governors because you are my followers.

But this will be your opportunity to tell them about me. [fn]

So don't worry in advance about how to answer the charges against you,
for I will give you the right words and such wisdom that none of your opponents will be able to reply or refute you!

Even those closest to you—your parents, brothers, relatives, and friends—will betray you. They will even kill some of you.
And everyone will hate you because you are my followers. [fn]

But not a hair of your head will perish!
By standing firm, you will win your souls.

Matthew 24:6-9

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Some of the above does happen elsewhere already. But, a couple of things here, notice in Luke, He mentions we would be sent to the synagogues, my working theory is this means also churches. Some like Chuck Missler have said persecution will come from the denominations, and i think that verse definitely supports that. It makes sense when you consider that mainline denominations continue to defy what the Bible says for whatever reason.

So we're just supposed to go and get persecuted without a fight? How can we do that? This is where prayer and discernment come in. For anyone who wants to see an example of this in action, read Dave Wilkerson's "The Cross and the Switchblade". This book is full of examples of how saved former gangsters refused to fight when confronted with violence because they now followed Christ and wanted to be a good witness.

I recall a recent story on Future Quake where Tom Bionic told of a former prize fighter who had become a missionary. So this boxer is out somewhere when a witchdoctor challenged him to a fight. After some prayer and thought, the fighter told the witch doctor that God did all his fighting and agreed to meet him. The witch doctor came up to him and started doing his stuff, and as he was about to fight the missionary, he fell over dead.

Also note that Jesus gave us a reason to not fight back. As we get arrested and questioned, this our chance to share the Gospel with those who would do us harm.

I admit that it goes against everything we're taught, and most everything we feel to not fight back, but so does just about everything about being a disciple of Jesus. Remember, if we are persecuted for His name, He is with us and will make sure our eternal state is secure.

Update 10-8-11

For a look at what Christian persecution in America might look like, take a look at these links.

"If Footmen Tire you, What will horses do?"

It's a little campy, but it's full of powerful images. Also, it doesn't have to be communists, it could be other forces one day, though I doubt it would be Muslims like many on the right would have us believe.

Update 11-15-11

Churches vandalized in one of the Carolinas.

Also, Chuck Missler is recommending Everyone read Habakkuk (esp 2:4) and Hebrews, Romans and Galatians as a way to live faithfully during any upcoming turmoil.

Please share any articles you find below

Update 7-24-2012

Pastor arrested for holding a home Bible study


  1. As tragic ad the story of Pastor Yousef in Iran, this is an excellent example in current events. This story is being read world wide about the intolerance of Islam and the steadfast devotion of Jesus's disciples. A heart wrenching story, but certainly a blessing for the will of God.

    I also expect for persecution is coming to America. And I believe we are to live to spread the gospel, to evade to spread the gospel and to fight to spread the gospel. The scripture you cite is very important and I gravitate to that ad well. Yes, Jesus told us to carry a sword, but everything that followed taught us that we are to use restraint and be the Holy Spirit. Jesus asked the guards to allow His men go free and I am convinced that Satan's internal nudging pushed Peter to strike. If a fight broke out then and the soldiers killed the disciples, who would be left to carry the message. They were to survive to spread the gospel. This is what I believe it to mean to be as wise as serpents, but as gentle as doves. You are wise so you can evade to spread, but you are gentle so they never have any legitimate reason to persecute you. That way the only thing left is their blind hatred of you.

    So, if this Pastor Yousef guy was having an inappropriate relationship with a woman, the authorities would have a false rape trial (for example) and this story would not get any traction, as it would be another creep getting Justice. As it were, he was gentle and God fearing and now these evil men must show their real face to the world.

    Currently, I am on a promotional campaign for my thesis. I have printed out fliers and as I drive by churches I go and talk to the office to place it in the pastor's mailbox. It's a warning to all Christ professing to remain steadfast in Holy Righteousness. I suspect at some point this will turn out bad for me, but until then I will continue to spread the truth when ever I can. This blog and others like it will be Target too I suspect. It is easy for authorities to trace IP addresses back to Tue originators.

    God bless you and keep up the righteous fight.

  2. Good thoughts hopeful. We'll likely be in the camp together.

    This pastor yousef story as you say is playing out as " look how bad iran is" when we have lower level versions of it going on here.

    I also want to mention to everyone that another example of Christian response to persecution is Corrie Ten Boom. I have a link to one of her audios on this blog, but she showed Jesus to her camp officers and even led them to Christ!


    I know this link is unrelated to this blog post, but since LA closed his comment section I can't share it with the crew and I am bursting at the seams. War is a comin!!! What do you think, no one?

  4. Oh my dear God. You have got to read this article.

    They ARE trying the pastor for rape. Arrrrg!!

  5. I saw how they changed the charge to rape. Sad, and unlikely.

    As far as the other article, difficult to say. It doesn't seem there's many options. If palestine is granted a state, then Israel won't take kindly to it. If they don't get one, then I can't imagine others will be happy. Interesting times!

  6. You might find this article interesting. Looks like Christian persecution has an interesting enabler... The Vatican.,7340,L-4129577,00.html

  7. Wow. This doesn't surprise me.